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Old 03-03-2009, 06:17 AM
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Fabs, go to www.ar15.com and look thru the AR10 forum. You'll find many answers there.
I know you're not asking for this advice, you may want to consider selling that bicycle and getting a complete gun(s) while you still can. A bicycle will do nothing to defend your home, family, etc.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:51 AM
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Yeah Fabs

Priorities ya know..the bike you can alsways build..the gun?? only for a short time longer. Your priorities are out of kilter. I am laughing..but do not feel that it's a joke.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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If I buy the lowers, what will prevent me from buying the rest of the parts for the AR's at a later date? I guess they could outlaw every single part to an AR, but don't you think every current AR owner would be pissed. Then again, maybe they will outlaw the mere possession of an AR, with no grandfather clause, so then I'll have actually have saved money because I'll have to turn in my AR's so I am not a criminal. I cannot risk losing my professional licenses and/or going to jail with a wife and 2 kids. The safe is full of plenty of other guns, including a mini-30, so I am not quite as worried about whether or not I have an AR. I'm just not quite as worried about losing AR's as most people are because I just don't think it is going to happen. Likewise, I'm not like the rest of these people that think everything is going to be fine in a year or two. Don't get me wrong, I am extremely opposed to an assault weapons ban, but if it happens even though I put plenty of effort toward defeating it, then it happens.

I am neither a pessimist nor an optimist. I don't look at the glass as being half full or half empty, but look at the status of the bottle and whether there are any more bottles after that. In essence, I am a big picture, long term, type of guy. There are other things to spend money on right now, like IRA's, 529 plans, and individual stocks and mutual funds outside of retirement accounts.

The bike frame and parts were paid for before September and the thereafter implosion of the economy, and I have just been waiting on getting the handle bars and saddle airbrushed to match the frame. Just like you guys do not understand the expenditure on the bike, neither do the bikes guys understand paying a couple thousand for a gun. Plus, with gas predicted to hit $5 a gallon this summer, imagine how much I can save by riding the bike places. LOL That will be enough to buy a couple AR's.
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Exclamation Fabs I just don't think you get it

Quoting Fabs.
I cannot risk losing my professional licenses and/or going to jail with a wife and 2 kids. The safe is full of plenty of other guns, including a mini-30, so I am not quite as worried about whether or not I have an AR. I'm just not quite as worried about losing AR's as most people are because I just don't think it is going to happen.

What makes you think you will keep the other guns in the safe? This administration and the democratic- controlled congress don't have to pass laws to take your guns. It can be done by Administrative means. These people are NOT socialists..they are Marxists. They don't want private industry..they surely do NOT want private ownership of firearms. As far as your licenses and possibly going to jail with a wife and 2 kids. What is more important...continuing the freedoms you enjoyed in the past or the life you may live in the future if a marxist government will allow you to. It surely won't be like the life we all enjoyed in the past if we all capitulate and just GIVE our rights away without a fight. Heck..if the founding fathers of this country had felt the way you just stated you feel...we'd still be under British rule.
Now as far as them not taking the ARs away. I hope you are right...but I fear you are putting your head in the sand. I really do hope you are right. Remember ...they just threw away 25% of the value of your money with that 800B$ Pork Bill. What is to stop even more ridiculous bull Hockey? Oh btw I hope you are also wrong about 5 dollar gas...Nobody will be able to afford it anyway. And to let ya know...you could save as much gas with a 100 dollar bike....hehehehe. Just messing with ya on the bike thingie.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:15 AM
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What makes you think you will keep the other guns in the safe? This administration and the democratically controlled congress don't have to pass laws to take your guns.
Skeet, not sure if this is a typo but wanted to clarify.
I think you meant to type "democrat-controlled congress"?
Cause there is nothing democratic about the democrat party...

Fabs, I understand difficult decisions and its that way for all of us.
You know whats best for your family.

Do you see that light at the end of the tunnel?
Its the obama express with a full head of steam coming right at America...
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Look, I definitely see your guys point, but what happens if you are wrong. What happens if they only ban assault weapons, I don't turn mine in, lost my livelihood, and that is as far as it actually goes? Then what? Do I get a do over?

On the flip side, the hard core liberals are telling me everything is going to be roses in a year or two, and I ask them what if they are wrong and everything hits the fan? What do I do then if I don't have guns, ammo, food, and water on hand? I also tell them not to plan on coming to my house for protection if they are not bearing gifts.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't want to take either extreme because I am not positive that either extreme will happen. Don't get me wrong, there is a chance, but I don't think it is the prevailing one in my mind.

With all that said, we are all entitled to our own viewpoint on what is going to happen to this nation. Ultimately, I'll make the decision about giving up my AR's if and when it happens. Otherwise, I'll just continue building them at my own pace. I guess I should have bought them outright to do my part in helping out this economy since nobody else but me seems to be spending money.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:09 PM
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Hey Fabs

I also see your point..ya have to hedge your bets.. During the revolutionary war they called people that did that Tories. I hedge my bets too. But one thing for certain...I will fight with my ARs before giving them up. I don't have any hard core liberals for friends.. I am sorry you do. They are anathema to the ideals of this country..at least the way it used to be. That is why we are in this pickle now. The liberals have put us into the position we are in.. The War on Poverty. What a bunch of crap..it created more people under the poverty level and the only ones it hurt was the taxpayers. Socialism is no friend to the working man or woman. The only people it helps are the ones who choose not to work...Socialism also takes your rights and throw them out the window..in the name of safety for everyone. I buy no guns at a store anymore..I have 4 guns right now that are registered to me...Oh yeah..they are registered..and so are yours.. Dealers have to keep records for 20 yrs. Think that they won't go to look at 'em?? Look at the Homeland Security organization. They are spying on Americans right now...and if we have more attacks like 9-11 guess what?? They can suspend your rights under the constitution. It seems to me that Obama is inviting that scenario. If it comes to that. I think that things are going to get worse than you think..much worse. I personally forsee an armed insurrection in this country.. Not dissing you Fabs...but if that happens..are you going to be fighting a government that is taking your rights illegally...or are you going to choose to be a subject?? It will be YOUR choice. On the other hand...I certainly hope you are right...but it don't look good for the good guys....and Obama and the Democrat party ain't any of the good guys. For that matter not many of the Republicans are either. Yep...I'm still Pi**ed
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