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Old 12-02-2009, 08:30 AM
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There are too many that either do not know how to read signs or most just don't give a rats butt and enter anyhow. Play stupid if caught. We have a local renegade that is that way and it does make for a hard time gaining access by those that stop and ask permission. Most people do not read rules. I know as VP of our local sportsmens club and we have over a thousand members that any violations of rules will get you a response of "I didn't know that". So they are shown written in rule book. No excuse for not knowing and again there are the renegades that do it until get caught..play stupid..you can tell right from the start. It amazes me how many do not read their hunting digest given with hunting license either. I get asked questions and first thing I ask is did you read rule book? NO.. I would like a follow up on just what did happen out there with the shootings but now it is only the hunters word. Generations now have had lack of respect for everything or anyone. I seen it start when a humility paddle in front of the class was stopped because they don't want to 'hurt' their feelings. These same people beat their friends up on the way from school or run up over the hoods,roof and down the trunk of cars on way from school. These people grew up without feelings or respect for authority or anyone or anything. It carries over to adulthood. I see this with problems at the club and most come from the mid 20's generation. Sure these people should of not trespassed but someone was the first to be confrontational with a sad result. I do know this for sure that if I were in a crowd and someone started to shoot people, I would not stand there and be next in line if I had the means to stop the shooter. Again in this case, we only have 1/2 the story and not sure that is what happened. We even had a local game warden and his sons shooting geese on a farmers posted land and when told leave, said I am warden and can do what I want so the landowner got his shotgun out and blasted in the air..He was arrested for doing that...That was lack of respect from people with authority from the warden all the way to the court system. Not the landowner.
Well just got a call from my daughter to hit the deer woods..so good luck to all hunting..be safe and don't trespass or you will be shot.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:11 AM
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Skeeter,

If a warden was on my land without permission, you can bet I would be video taping the incident and calling the police. If the police didn't want to do anything about it, you can bet I would get the news media, Court system, and citizenry involved. That is the problem with law enforcement too. I think they have forgotten that they are part of society too, that they serve society in general, and that they need to follow the same rules that the rest of us follow. Too many LEO's get their badge and think they have carte blanch or that they have just received some sort of super power.

Now, the reason the landowner was arrested is because firing in the air can be considered an assault, but that is pretty weak.
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