Penn State's view of PGC deer management.

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Adam Helmer
Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Mansfield, PA
Posts: 3,331

bigbrother,

I sincerely hope we give the few remaining deer a well-deserved BREAK! PGC was NEVER Scientific and the poor deer got the short end of the stick!

Adam
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Adam Helmer Yesterday, 12:35 PM
Adam Helmer
Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Mansfield, PA
Posts: 3,331

skeeter,

I am for Sunday hunting. All the malls are openon Sunday

To those that want sunday hunting
....Keep sunday hunting for deer closed...
In order to give the deer a break why then would we allow hunters to shoot them even on sunday?..If need to hunt and shoot on a sunday, hunt coyotes, crows but we do not need another day open to deer season. If a kid wants or needs to hunt that bad, then he can stop being a ball jocky for one day and spend time with dad in the woods. No they wine they cant ride their ball on a saturday and hunt too...so lets give those meat hunters another chance to shoot more doe and then 'donate' it to a food bank or soup kitchen so they can pat their back for feeding the needy. 90% of those see it is deer meat and say 'eeeewww, I not eat that' and it ends up in the garbage. And I have already run into a guy this year open day buck that has done that with 5 deer so far and was looking for more. Yep, lets give him a sunday to get more. We hunt crows, coyotes on sundays and I have yet seen a kid with his dad out there doing the same. Dad and his buddies, the kid is home tired because he had to ride a ball around a room someplace and I bet he would not even want to get up sunday either. Dad would though..gotta feed the soup kitchens.....NOPE..CAN ALREADY HUNT IF WANT TO HUNT BUT WE DO NOT DEED ANOTHER DAY FOR DEER

[Mr. 16 gauge]

I am not sure if this thread is about deer management or Sunday hunting.....if it is about Sunday hunting, then all I have to say is this:
I work in a profession that requires that I take call every other weekend; sometimes more. I know that there are folks out there that are required to work 6 days a week, with Sundays being their only day off. To eliminate hunting opportunities for certain individuals will only help to decrease the number of folks that participate, decrease the amount of revenue that goes back into the fish and game coffers as well as decreasing the amount of political clout we have when it comes to fighting the antis. There is also the 'trickle down' effect that happens when people are legislated out of participation: decreased revenue for local businesses (sporting goods stores, convenience stores, restaraunts, motels, gas stations, ect), as well as sportsman's clubs and organizations such as ducks unlimited, pheasants forever, whitetails unlimited, ect.
Michigan did away with "no sunday hunting" laws quite some time ago, and while I know of no formal studies re: decreasing game populations, I can't say as I have seen a drop in game numbers due to one more day of hunting per week. I have seen a decrease due to no funding (to manage lands properly and efficently), a decrease due to increased predation (from hawks, owls, coyotes, stray cats, coons, foxes, ect), a disinterest from our DNR in poaching (found several deer carcasses w/o heads and or/antlers dumped in a ditch, a half mile from a DNR check station.....nobody really cared to check it out), and from an interest in managing only for one species/type of hunter (firearms deer and bow hunters).
IMHO, to prevent people from hunting on Sundays is not only antiquated and misguided, but a bit selfish as well ("more for me, when I can go" type attitude).