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Old 05-07-2014, 09:45 AM
Gil Martin Gil Martin is offline
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Very informative study

I am amazed at the level of detail and analysis. Well done. My only reservation is that since RIG gun grease and cosmoline were not included the study appears to be incomplete. Brownells did a similar study of rust inhibiting products and RIG and cosmoline were the best. All the best...
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:57 PM
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Rancid, you've done an amazing amount of work! Thank you.
Very illuminating.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:30 AM
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Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.

“Ron,

We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.

We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.

May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.

Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.

Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.

Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky
FrogLube Founders “

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I replied to them with the following:

“Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions.

The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage.

Ron”
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:42 PM
Adam Helmer Adam Helmer is offline
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Rancid,

Thank you for finally posting in post #19 on this thread, " these are the 3 top performing products." That is ALL most of us wanted to know.

When a person like yourself does a lot a research, it aids your work to be able to convey it in a Synopsis; not everyone has the time to read dozens of pages of test data. Please consider you audience in future research. Many folks merely want the "bottom line" and not an endless "novel" just two pages shorter than "War and Peace." LOL!

When I want to know the time, I do not want to know how to build a clock...

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Old 05-08-2014, 02:39 PM
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Rancid,

When a person like yourself does a lot a research, it aids your work to be able to convey it in a Synopsis; not everyone has the time to read dozens of pages of test data. Please consider you audience in future research. Many folks merely want the "bottom line" and not an endless "novel" just two pages shorter than "War and Peace." LOL!

When I want to know the time, I do not want to know how to build a clock...

Adam
Actually no, it doesnt aid my work. Not even in the slightest. Im not inclined to coddle to the lazy, entitlement (I want it all and I want it now and I dont want to put forth the effort so I want you to do it for me and then complain when you arent doing fast enough) portion of society that is fast growing. (not just on internet forums). It was very parochial reading. One needed only to have the desire to bring something of themselves to the task. (In this case reading). Finally you took the initiative to actually read the text. I cant tell you how happy I am that you are now satisfied. Really I cant.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:37 PM
Rancid Crabtree Rancid Crabtree is offline
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Its been 288 hours (12 days) since Board #1 was placed outside and 264 hours (11 days) for Board #2 so I thought I would update. There has been some rain this week but lots of sun and wind and the trees are spreading all manner of pollen and debris in the air. The Sun’s UV rays have all but made the sharpie marker unreadable but I have a map and can still make it out enough to see.

Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio.



And here are the close-ups of the samples.





As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.

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Old 05-10-2014, 11:26 AM
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Wow

Rancid. The information you posted is very useful. I had never even heard(I don't think) of Frog Lube. Gonna have to hunt that product up. Thanks for all the hard work. And I do understand not watching TV. I only wish the "Gunwriters" could be as objesctive in their evaluations as you have been with this.
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