Results of gun care product evaluation

Rancid Crabtree · #1 05-08-2014, 08:37 PM

Its been 288 hours (12 days) since Board #1 was placed outside and 264 hours (11 days) for Board #2 so I thought I would update. There has been some rain this week but lots of sun and wind and the trees are spreading all manner of pollen and debris in the air. The Sun’s UV rays have all but made the sharpie marker unreadable but I have a map and can still make it out enough to see.

Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio.

And here are the close-ups of the samples.

As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.

skeet · #2 05-10-2014, 11:26 AM

Wow

Rancid. The information you posted is very useful. I had never even heard(I don't think) of Frog Lube. Gonna have to hunt that product up. Thanks for all the hard work. And I do understand not watching TV. I only wish the "Gunwriters" could be as objesctive in their evaluations as you have been with this.

Adam Helmer · #3 05-10-2014, 01:51 PM

Rancid,

I must agree you did a lot of research. I also agree with Gil that you did not cover RIG or cosmoline.

I hope in future you will include RIG and cosmoline because many gun owners use that stuff. May I also suggest you better manage you wide universe of Data by putting a one-paragraph Synopsis (Summary) of your Findings at the beginning or the end of your report. It is Patronizing to "Assume" every person will "wade" through your data to FINALLY come to a Finding. IF you cannot come to a conclusion, HOW can anyone take your laborious work seriously? I have done much firearms related research. Every study has a beginning, a middle and an end with a CONCLUSION. Your inability to conclude your Work indicates you got in "Over Your Head" and cannot see "The forest for the trees."

ONCE you have a CONCLUSION, it would be helpful to convey it to your readers. If you cannot communicate your work, May I suggest Report Writing 101? You Obviously can do FIELD Work, BUT can you communicate your findings? I have not seen it to date.

Be well.

Adam

Rancid Crabtree · #4 05-11-2014, 02:33 PM

Actually Adam, of all the forums I posted this evaluation to you are the only person who struggled with reading and comprehension skills except one other person on another for that goes by the name of Webly. Like you he lacked the basic education or even a modest ability to understand the written word. I doubt I could dumb it down enough for you two unless I used only pictures.

Im not inclined to coddle to the lazy, ignorant, entitlement (I want it all and I want it now and I dont want to put forth the effort so I want you to do it for me and then complain when you arent doing fast enough) portion of society that is fast growing. (not just on internet forums). It was very parochial reading. One needed only to have the desire to bring something of themselves to the task. (In this case reading). Finally you took the initiative to actually read the text. I cant tell you how happy I am that you are now satisfied. Really I cant.

In the future, you may wish to employ another person to read the posts to you and then explain the concepts presented. While you still dont understand I should explain to you that my intention WAS NOT to tell you which product to use. It was an evaluation that you could read and then arrive at your own conclusions from the data presented but I fear you dont have the capacity for such a thing. In the future I will continue to present such evaluations in these very simple terms but perhaps should follow up with a very dumbed down version for you and Webly that would read as follow.

1. I bought some gun lube (followed by a picture)

2. I used it. (followed by a picture)

3. Brand X seemed the best (followed by a picture of brand X)

4. You should buy brand X (followed by another picture of brand X)

But I fear that too would be too much reading for you and you would still complain that it was not simple enough to understand. Frankly I blame the public education system. You may wish to seek a refund.

Im not sure how you could take your lack of ability to understand very simple text and somehow turn it into my fault and then pout and carry on as you did with such a tantrum. Ive only seen such behavior in adolescents who want to blame their shortcoming on others and then prattle on and on in such a tedious a manner dripping with vinegar and water akin to something one might use on a Summers Eve.

All the best

Your pal Rancid.

FIJI · #5 05-11-2014, 03:43 PM

this is quickly becoming my favorite thread

THANKS for the research.

Adam Helmer · #6 05-12-2014, 02:36 PM

Rancid,

I believe your name say it all! I think you are truly Rancid. Since you refuse to discuss your alleged scientific research, I will gladly allow you to have the last word, even if the best you can do is make a personal attack on me. My friends here on this site know me and, now they know you.

Adam

Rancid Crabtree · #7 05-12-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

Rancid,

I believe your name say it all! I think you are truly Rancid.

Thanks for the personal attack. It seems its all you have to offer. SMDH

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Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

Since you refuse to discuss your alleged scientific research

False! I have happily discussed this evaluation but at no time did I label it "scientific" nor have I labeled it "research" Mine was a simple comparison and evaluation. I cant understand why this is such a difficult concept to wrap your head around. I have been forthcoming and posted in clear and easy to understand terms including pictures and methods including a "final thoughts" wrap up of the results. Everybody got it and understood except you and that dolt Webly on the other sight. You hope to manufacture a scenario where I am not willing to discuss. That is BS. We both know that. Its as if you have a desire to be difficult for the sake of being difficult. I dont have time for such nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

My friends here on this site know me and, now they know you.

They might be the very people sending me PMs with very unkind words for you. Multiple people have used very unkind words to describe you and how your abrasive, rude and obtuse ramblings are the norm and to simply ignore you and not to be discouraged. I would rather try to educate you as I think there is still hope for you but the hope is growing dimmer and dimmer based on your tedious replies.

Your pal Rancid.