Results of gun care product evaluation

[Rancid Crabtree]

Actually Adam, of all the forums I posted this evaluation to you are the only person who struggled with reading and comprehension skills except one other person on another for that goes by the name of Webly. Like you he lacked the basic education or even a modest ability to understand the written word. I doubt I could dumb it down enough for you two unless I used only pictures.

Im not inclined to coddle to the lazy, ignorant, entitlement (I want it all and I want it now and I dont want to put forth the effort so I want you to do it for me and then complain when you arent doing fast enough) portion of society that is fast growing. (not just on internet forums). It was very parochial reading. One needed only to have the desire to bring something of themselves to the task. (In this case reading). Finally you took the initiative to actually read the text. I cant tell you how happy I am that you are now satisfied. Really I cant.

In the future, you may wish to employ another person to read the posts to you and then explain the concepts presented. While you still dont understand I should explain to you that my intention WAS NOT to tell you which product to use. It was an evaluation that you could read and then arrive at your own conclusions from the data presented but I fear you dont have the capacity for such a thing. In the future I will continue to present such evaluations in these very simple terms but perhaps should follow up with a very dumbed down version for you and Webly that would read as follow.

1. I bought some gun lube (followed by a picture)

2. I used it. (followed by a picture)

3. Brand X seemed the best (followed by a picture of brand X)

4. You should buy brand X (followed by another picture of brand X)

But I fear that too would be too much reading for you and you would still complain that it was not simple enough to understand. Frankly I blame the public education system. You may wish to seek a refund.

Im not sure how you could take your lack of ability to understand very simple text and somehow turn it into my fault and then pout and carry on as you did with such a tantrum. Ive only seen such behavior in adolescents who want to blame their shortcoming on others and then prattle on and on in such a tedious a manner dripping with vinegar and water akin to something one might use on a Summers Eve.

All the best

Your pal Rancid.

[FIJI]

this is quickly becoming my favorite thread

THANKS for the research.

[Adam Helmer]

Rancid,

I believe your name say it all! I think you are truly Rancid. Since you refuse to discuss your alleged scientific research, I will gladly allow you to have the last word, even if the best you can do is make a personal attack on me. My friends here on this site know me and, now they know you.

Adam

[Rancid Crabtree]

Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

Rancid,

I believe your name say it all! I think you are truly Rancid.

Thanks for the personal attack. It seems its all you have to offer. SMDH

Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

Since you refuse to discuss your alleged scientific research

False! I have happily discussed this evaluation but at no time did I label it "scientific" nor have I labeled it "research" Mine was a simple comparison and evaluation. I cant understand why this is such a difficult concept to wrap your head around. I have been forthcoming and posted in clear and easy to understand terms including pictures and methods including a "final thoughts" wrap up of the results. Everybody got it and understood except you and that dolt Webly on the other sight. You hope to manufacture a scenario where I am not willing to discuss. That is BS. We both know that. Its as if you have a desire to be difficult for the sake of being difficult. I dont have time for such nonsense.

Originally Posted by Adam Helmer

My friends here on this site know me and, now they know you.

They might be the very people sending me PMs with very unkind words for you. Multiple people have used very unkind words to describe you and how your abrasive, rude and obtuse ramblings are the norm and to simply ignore you and not to be discouraged. I would rather try to educate you as I think there is still hope for you but the hope is growing dimmer and dimmer based on your tedious replies.

Your pal Rancid.

[Adam Helmer]

Rancid,

I have nothing more to discuss. Be well.

Adam

[Rancid Crabtree]

While I fear it comes far too late, I suggest it is for the best.

[GoodOlBoy]

Rancid a couple of points of order. At no time did Adam ever indicate that he didn't read, OR understand your documentation, yet you have continued to insinuate that because he insists on a good summary he is somehow lacking. I have known Adam through huntchat for more than a decade, and he has only ever given good positive criticism when discussing posts. Yet you have continued to be insulting for reasons I can't fathom to a guy who is both respected and intelligent. I enjoy reading your posts and work, and I enjoy when HC members and moderators are able to have good conversations. That being said I privately expressed concerns very early on that when a summary was requested, or advised you were particularly insulting to not only Adam, but in such a way that would have alienated anyone else who would also have liked a brief summary of your findings. In the future I hope that you can take constructive criticism with more grace.

thanks for your work

Richard

[Rancid Crabtree]

Update on the two outdoors corrosion boards. Hornady One shot has finally failed on Board #2 Leaving Frog Lube and WD 40 Specialist but the Hornady product is still going strong on board #1.

[skeet]

Well at this point I think that the 3 are still doing well. even with the one failure..A long time in the wet wonderful out of doors..It ain't real wet here though..Going to a gun show this weekend..There is a guy at this one that sells all kinds of gun lubs etc..some I have never heard of.

[Rancid Crabtree]

I am in the process of designing an experiment, process and device to do further lubricity evaluations on these products. The first evaluation was for the coefficient of “static” friction but I fear it was lacking (even though it was a reasonable side by side evaluation) so Im working on evaluating “dynamic” friction forces. The long holiday weekend should provide me with time to get this going.

Static coefficient of friction was pretty straight forward with the weighted sled and the addition of water to eventually break free the friction forces between the two metal plates but I am devising a constant motion evaluation so I can capture the friction forces between two metal plates that are continually moving to gauge lubricity of the products as well as wear over a great duration than the static friction evaluation.